This will serve as my Strikeforce review from tonight’s fight all though I won’t be going into any great detail about any of the other fights on the card, instead I want to talk about the main event.
The title of my post says it all and I am just waiting for all of the wise ass Fedor supporters to go nuts after reading it, honestly that’s too bad because it’s true. Now that Fedor has beat a tire changer what’s next? Maybe a construction worker? In tonight’s CBS Saturday Night Fights Fedor managed to retain the WAMMA title (wtf is that) that was given to him when he signed with Strikeforce a few months ago, please note that it was actually given to him.
As much as I wanted to see Fedor get knocked out by Rogers it just wasn’t in the cards tonight, however Brett Rogers the #10 ranked heavyweight dominated the first round and came very close to ending it on the ground with strikes. Fedor suffered a nasty cut on the bridge of his nose from the very first jab that Rogers threw in the first round, Rogers seemed calm in all situations throughout the fight and easily out struck Fedor in the first round and did more damage.
All Fedor fans like to scream about his ground game and how easily he would destroy just about anyone on the ground, that wasn’t the case tonight all though Fedor was on the ground with Rogers he never took advantage of the situation. In the second round Fedor generated a few seconds of excitement with a flurry of blocked punches against the cage, right around this point is when Rogers got a little too comfortable.
Frank Shamrock kept screaming that Rogers needed to punch first and continue his movement, anytime he did throw first he had results and should have continued to strike with Fedor. As both fighters moved to the center of the cage Rogers seemed to get too confident and threw somewhat of a lazy jab that Fedor came over the top of and cracked Rogers with a mind blowing right that dropped Rogers.
Here’s where things get sticky and it’s mostly my own fault because I love to talk shit about Fedor and how I feel about his hand delivered belts and constant dodging of top 10 mma fighters, the bottom line is that the best fighters in MMA are in the UFC. EJ haters can scream and yell now about how Fedor won the fight which is exactly true, and Fedor should have won the fight they do sell his ass as the best fighter in all of mma.
Personally I am still far from impressed with Fedor, I will give credit where credit is due and say that the guy has some amazing reflexes and can respond to lazy strikes like nobody’s business and with devastating power. Since Strikeforce really has no other challengers for Fedor the chatter already started with the talk of a rematch, a rematch that Fedor might want to consider avoiding because Rogers WILL beat Fedor if they fight again.
Rogers fought a good smart fight in the first round and the early part of the second round, had he continued to follow that game plan I doubt that Fedor would have been able to see out of any of his eyes by the time the third round started. There’s no need for Rogers to go back to Sams Club and change car tires like he was a year ago, he has good hands and if he continues to let them go he has a promising career.
As for Fedor and like I said earlier he still has yet to impress me outside of his cat like reflexes, you won’t see me in the streets tomorrow talking about the Emperor or supporting the theory that he is the best fighter in MMA. If Fedor had as much trouble as he did with Rogers strength how would he possibly deal with Brock Lesnar’s size and strength? I don’t think he would be able to in my opinion and I don’t even like Brock Lesnar, I have written rants about how I feel about Brock Lesnar and I still feel he would dominate Fedor in the same fashion as Rogers, only worse.
The Fedor lovers can leave a comment and tell me how much I suck or how much of a dumbass I am, I am ok with that. Maybe while they take a moment to do that they can answer a question for me. You do realize that Fedor got owned tonight right? I mean really you watched the fight right? Just curious.
Also see: Fedor Win: Wasn’t He Suppose to?
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” You do realize that Fedor got owned tonight right? I mean really you watched the fight right? Just curious.”
Owned as in knocked the fuck out?
Your hate towards Fedor is blinding you. You can’t expect Fedor to Zulu everybody, no one can be like that. Fedor has been in way worse trouble than what Roger’s put him in. Deal with it.
God speed and party on!
Twitter: extremejohn
@Fred, certainly not owned as it knocked out. He won the fight bottom line, and he might have been in worse trouble before but Fedor isn’t getting any younger and I think it’s evident.
Thank you for commenting
@Extreme John,
His mind hasn’t lost a step. That’s what matters most.
@Extreme John, The fight went longer than expected, but the doubt was never in question.
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@Fred,
i agree the commentators were like the mighty Fedor cut blah blah blah….. Have you seen his other fights in Pride? Stop hating Fedor is barnone the best at his weight class, maybe the best period. Brett Rogers never stood a chance. Fedor was relax(even getting hit on the ground) Broke nose didnt matter. Did he Knock the tire changer out? Yes!!!! Then like a typical brother talks shit after getting his ass handed to him.. In a street fight with no refs he would be dead. Fedor truly a Russian nightmare and the best. Your opinions suck and your web page. know what your talking about before you say more. Moron
Twitter: extremejohn
@gel, I love the fact that some moron can get a dick like you so fired up. Listen if you have a crush on Fedor thats your choice no one is saying you can’t have love for Fedor. Have it, enjoy it.
The same way you have your “Russian Nightmare” loving opinion, I have my opinion. My opinion is that when your not getting heated over someone else’s opinion on a blog your busy burning the knees of your jeans out trying to grab some attention. In addition to that my opinion is that Fedor is STILL OVER RATED and you can hate it all you want.
Your pathetic attempts at trying to prove your point are nothing more than popcorn treats, keep it up. Thanks for commenting.
@Extreme John, i dont know why u said rogers dominated first round, for me it was even. Rogers connect a good jab that broke fedors nose and bleeds like crazy, yes but if u see prefight photos u can see that he have a cut previously so it seems that it was a sparring ingurie. then fedor takedown twice a 260lbs rogers and connect a left hook. In the ground i have no idea why but he try to pull out a kimuro when he was on top,rogers takes the oportunity gain top position and starts the gnp that was the worst part for fedor in the round, still was only 3 punches and he recover pretty fast.
so… i dont know why u say rogers dominated first round.
“how I feel about his hand delivered belts and constant dodging of top 10 mma fighters” who? AA, Rogers, Sylvia,Barnett (they didn’t fight but it isnt fedors fault that barnett cheat so..)? All of them were top ten when they fight. if u wanna go before them it only get worst…
On the other hand this fight states that brock will be a pin in the ass in an eventual fight with fedor, cause fedor dont have that much control in the floor like i thought he would have against rogers….so if rogers without a wrestler background give him trouble brock will give him BIG trouble. Maybe the reason why fedor attempts an armbar in top position was that he underestimate rogers in the ground.
@Extreme John, fedor is not over rated. Tim Silvia, Arloski, Mark colmen, UFC is over rated all the fights end by TKO UFC is lame. Fedor came from PRIDE. look at prides fights fedor is the= champ so. look at the all his past fights and tell me Different 37 win 1 no contest come on bro
@Extreme John,
to each his own
. Isn’t that what they say. Nice comeback
@Extreme John, You just hate people to succeed. Calling Rogers a tire changer.. what’s his former job got to do with this fight. Grow up. It’s not your fault your not the favorite son in your family.
@Fred,
not impressed with fedor at all? his ground game and throws etc are top notch.
however, his striking is elementary school rubbish, dude looks at his feet and swings like hes serving a tennis ball. he lands 1 out of 10. problem is that 1 is fuckin devastating. eventually somebody will serve his ass on the feet like arlovski was doing, and not have that brain fart to let fedor win. i hope.
as much as i hate brock, i think he would crush fedor based on sheer size. with brocks size and wrestling, i dont see anyway possible fedor could stay on the feet, or get up from the ground. he’d lay his big ass on top of fedor hittin him with those 5 gallon buckets he calls hands for 5 rounds.
all this said, i like fedor
just tired of all the man crushes.
ur a dam fool if u think rogers OWNED fedor
were u even watching the same fight? why would u even headline this article “Fedor gets owned”, ur intentions clearly arent for the sake of a legitimate review of the fight. Yes i am a fedor fan, but that doesnt mean i dont make fair calls on a fight. rogers was beating him on the stand up? this is a joke, and then u go to say that rogers inflicted more damage on fedor when he only landed one hit that made fedors nose bleed??? ill admit, fedor did look some what out of shape relative to his pride fights but to say Rogers was owning fedor is just being a shit disturber, ur prob a machida fan.
Twitter: extremejohn
@bt, ummmmm sincde your Mr. Call a Fight Right at any point did you plan on mentioning the ass pounding he took while Rogers was standing above him and hit him with 5 huge shots right in a row?
At least you formed your comment in the form of a question and didn’t even try to say that Fedor was beating Rogers on the stand-up game, because we both know that couldn’t be any further from the truth.
I called the review on the fight right and the title is right regardless if you want to believe it or not. I did say that Fedor won by brutal KO right? Yes, and thats about the only thing Fedor did minus the poor submission attempt when he was getting brutalized on the ground and the one right hook that hit Rogers.
Fedor is getting old, regardless he still has that KO power which seems to be keeping him in the game and it’s good to see it makes for exciting fights. However, it won’t change my opinion on Fedor and just how little he impresses me.
Bottom line Fedor will get owned by Rogers if they fight again, and he certainly doesn’t have any business even taking a shot at someone like Lesnar. I hate that guy and he would maul Fedor, way too big and way too strong for an aging “legend”.
Just like crazy people don’t know they’re crazy, stupid people don’t know either, eh John? (It’s “Rogers Owns Fedor *Then* Loses)
Fedor doesn’t come to your job and knock the cocks out of your mouth, so don’t deny Fedor demonstrating he is a man made stronger than you and I.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Humble, hey humble as dumb as I am it kills you that I am right doesn’t it?
On to the next points, your “cocks” comment is cute, not as cute as your fascination with jamming them in your ass or your fascination with using Kathy Griffin’s line from last years New Years Eve in Times square. Get some originality jack ass and thank you for the comments
http://www.extremejohn.com/kathy-griffin-bitch-im-on-your-side/
@Extreme John, the fact you watched that makes you a loser and that you know where he got it from..
Twitter: extremejohn
@gel, sorry lady boy but the fact that you ASSumed I watched it makes you a loser.
Believe it or not you can find all kinds of videos on the internet. Next.
@Extreme John,
hahahahaha. and you thanked him
Twitter: extremejohn
@Humble, the link is just to show you how dumb I am and still manage to be a year ahead of you.
@Humble, Humble, I am a little perplexed on why you actually commented on this blog? Did you come to Extreme John to contradict his grammar or did you come to announce to the world that you have come out of the closet and are in love with the cock meat sandwich? Last time I checked, this was a MMA blog, not a blog to come grade on. Also, perhaps you would like to enlighten me on why Fedor is a man made stronger than you and John??? I guess you perceive your self as a weak individual with no strengths and all weaknesses. Why dont you do us all a favor and continue jumping on the Fedor band waggon and gang bang your way to the glory hole my man.
Twitter: extremejohn
@B Crawford, you always have a kind way with words
Twitter: MMAPunk
Bt and Fred You do relize Fedor beat the number 10th ranked fighter right?. Hello Fedor was supposed to win. He’s number 1 and he should be able to beat the 10th place fighter but you act like he did something incredible. Big deal this exactly what M-1, Fedor and Strikeforce want. keep Fedor the big fish in a little pond so people like you will gooo gaa gaaa over him beating inferior opponent.So stop acting like retards with a new sippy cup
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John, you do realize that the guy who gets knocked out loses, right?
Twitter: extremejohn
@prepaid call, you do realize that I clearly state that in the post right?
Thanks for commenting.
hahahaha……..Lesnar and rogers fan…….hahaha what a joke.
Twitter: extremejohn
@, I see your eyes are still coated with man glue, I clearly said numerous times I HATE LESNAR. Learn to read before you hit the submit button.
Twitter: ShotOfCoffee
I thought last nights fight was interesting, but I would like to see Fedor fight some better qualified fighters. I think it would make for some better fights.
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Twitter: extremejohn
@Mike from Daily Shot Of Coffee, you always have to add some mature view of the situation.
Just say it Fedor was slap happy
lol mmapunk wtf r u saying, i never said i was freaking out, nor is it even worth freaking out over fedors win, im going against the claim that rogers owned fedor. i say one of the only parts of the fight that brett looked like he had a chance was when he was pounding fedor on the ground, but still, bretts attempt at “finishing” fedor was shit(it would be like saying machida got shogun with a sick flurry) and based on the position he was trying to ground and pound fedor on he wasnt gonna do much damage since fedor had a shit load of options to get out which he did by trying to do an armbar. the arm bar was an epic fail because bretts leg got caught up in the mix but other than this id say rogers never really showed much potential at taking the fight anywhere in his favor. The first punch was good, but after that fedor had his punches read and rogers wasnt going to land shit. and if u even think about talking about how rogers pinned up fedor against the cage then ur a real joke cuz rogers prob didnt know half ass what he was doing while holding up fedor against the cage (again, zero potential to take the fight anywhere in his favor)
Twitter: extremejohn
@bt, I can respect that you have an opinion and thats the one your going with, no sweat.
All though I do have to chuckle at Rogers holding Fedor up against the cage and not knowing what he was doing….. for a guy that didn’t know what he was doing, and changed tires a year ago AND is ranked #10 he did a pretty good job of holding Fedor there with ease…. and he’s ranked number one?
Whoa, whoa, calm down. I know Fedor was supposed to win, I’ll quote a comment of mine on another website which sums up my opinion on all of this debacle:
Fedor was only “exposed” for those who:
1. think UFC is all there is to see in MMA
2. never watched him fight before the Sylvia fight
3. think he is some kind of cyborg
Fedor was “exposed” long ago, as Nog and many many others. Fedor had trouble submitting guys like Hunt and CroCop who don’t have nowhere near the grappling experience he has. Fedor was mad rocked by Fujita. Fedor was pile-driven by Randleman. Fedor already faced all kinds of danger and was exposed in every way possible, the problem is people get caught up in the hype and by some reason start thinking he can’t even be touched.
Fedor is human, has flaws and his beatable, like everyone else. The only problem is, no one ever did.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Fred, I like how you put that and it’s a good way of looking at it.
extreme john has a great point so far ignored by your comments:
Before even thinking about ranking Fedor as the #1 Heavyweight (he is obviously not the #1 p4p, or at least not since 2005), He first has to beat Lesnar.(I don’t like him either, but god knows he’s a strong, athletic dude)
Twitter: extremejohn
@lod, thank you for commenting, I would like to add though that I don’t consider Lesnar numero uno either. Not sure who I consider number one but as of right now Lesnar is a big dude that could create problems for just about any HW.
I like Fedor…and will agree he was manhandled in the early rounds. But I think Fedor was rusty and not as sharp due to his lack of bouts. He hasnt fought in at least a year, if not more. But I firmly believe if there is a rematch soon….Fedor will be sharper and quicker….and the advantage as well..will be he will have the experience of fighting Rogers once. Fedor is smart…and I have yet to see him repeat mistakes…especially with opponents he has fought before. Predict- Fedor wins in the first round in the rematch, by submission.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Tonybo, you could very well be right Fedor might come back and be 20x better than he was in the first fight with Rogers. If he dominates Rogers the way someone that is ranked number one should dominate someone that is ranked number ten it will certainly be better than his first showing against that number ten guy.
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment.
Twitter: earningstep
nice review… this is big fight . yesterday i was amazed with big fight between the russian with haye….
Twitter: musicjudge
Hey John, you know by now I’m a Fedor fan and I’m not really gonna agree with you, but I’ll try to disagree with less venom than some of the Russian’s other fans.
First, Rogers did not win the first round.. Not even close. He broke Fedor’s nose and opened up a cut that Fedor got in training with that first jab. Then, on the ground, he landed about two clean shots to Fedor’s face out of the +- seven he threw. Bad? No, but hardly “ownage”. By comparison, Fedor got the better of the other two exchanges on the feet, slipping Rogers’ punches and following up with a few devastating shots of his own. On top of that, when they clinched up and Fedor’s back wasn’t against the fence, Fedor threw Rogers around the cage like a child. The first round looked worse for Fedor than it was for two reasons;
1) Fedor didn’t mount the kinds of offensives we’re used to seeing from him,
2) Fedor was bleeding and everyone really overreacted to the sight of blood.
Fedor was the aggressor and controlled the direction of the fight as well as it’s position. His biggest problem was a lack of experience being pressed against the cage by a much larger man.
The second round saw Fedor simply shove the larger man off of himself right before almost taking his head off.
Try not to listen to the manic fans of Fedor. He’s not a god, and he has often been in trouble in fights. What makes him impressive is how he oversomes and wins. Think about the fact that against Rogers, he was throwing around a massive man, stalking, striking and eventually KOing his opponent, all while working with a broken nose (thus not getting enough air and having to conserve his energy to avoid gassing).
Twitter: extremejohn
@Hard Rocking South African@Music Judge, I know your a Fedor fan and I won’t hold it against you just like I don’t hold it against other Fedor fans either.
I will say however that I have gone back and watched the fight three times now and I have to say that you might wanna give it another run on the DVR. Fedor had a few good strikes in the first round, but I stick to my call that he was in fact owned in the first round.
Take the “2 punches” that Rogers hit and state it as the actual 5 that it was and that changes things in a big way, not to mention 4 of those 5 punches were anything but grazing. Now much respect to Fedor for surviving it, than again he should have because he’s supposedly the best ever. IMO if thats the case he never should have even been in the situation he was in, especially not against a guy that has less than a year fighting on an mma stage.
As for the broken nose, Rogers nose was not broken. I would say that right there speaks louder than words for what went down in the first round.
Now as for the “man handling the bigger man” theory, I’m sorry but thats way off and you will see what I mean when you take another look at the fight. Rogers even managed to control Fedor on the ground for a period of time in the second round, of course when he got up from that situation he walked into a blazing right and fell asleep.
I don’t doubt Fedor’s ability to throw devastating punches with brutal accuracy, I don’t doubt that he’s had some great fights and come back from some serious adversity. I do however have a huge problem calling him the best MMA fighter ever or even in current times as long as he is going to continue to avoid the UFC and fighting who MMA fans and odds makers feel are truly the best fighters in MMA.
I’m sorry it just doesn’t work for me and never will, for every future Fedor fight in the foreseeable future I will be waiting on his devastating KO to arrive.
Twitter: musicjudge
Oh, and I agree that stylewise, Lesnar could give Fedor a lot of problems in a fight. Combining that size and strength with his wrestling abilities obviously causes problems.
I won’t make a call on that potential match-up until Fedor fights a bit more in the cage and gets more comfortable in that environment. Assuming he adjusts to it properly
Twitter: extremejohn
@Hard Rocking South African@Music Judge, probably a safe move because he could very well end up on the Cro Cop bus.
Yea, Rogers owned the first round all right. Fedor looked like something from a horror movie walking back to his corner with the proverbial “crimson mask.” Awesome finish, awesome fight, awesome card. I hope CBS made a killing off that broadcast, because after that, I’m a Strikeforce fan.
On Fedor: if Fedor had gone to UFC a few years ago, his win streak probably would’ve ended by now. But even then, he’d still be in the top 3. You gotta give him that, EJ.
Twitter: extremejohn
@sean@lift chairs, you are exactly right Sean and I will give him that.
Took this quote from Fast and the Furious… Now the quote is talking about racing, but it can relate to a fight to, winning is winning…
“Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile; winning’s winning. ”
Anyways I give both fighter respect for doing what they do best, respect!
Twitter: extremejohn
@Nobody, I agree winning is winning. It would be nice to see him win against a few other Top 5 ranked fighters, I don’t care how they get in front of each other I just want to see the best fight the best. Not the best fight hopefuls.
world alliance of mixed martial arts heavyweight title or WAMMA for short was practically given to him for beating tim silvia. Fedor is like the ali of mma ever hear about rope a dope. Its not about who owed who its about who won. As far as fedor ducking the top 10 guys, a champion does not look for fights the fighters need to beat the champ and go to him. Its like mr extreme can say fedor is ducking him because he aint comming to his door to fight. Ufc isn’t the only game in town and who knows when fedor has finished 2 more fights for m1 global maybe ufc will see him or the truly brave will go to strikeforce and face the true champ.
@ozzthebarkeep, Ozz… what the hell are you talking about, a champ does not look for fights, fighters must come to them. Who is Fedor the champ of? Last time I checked, he was given a title that was created by Strikeforce to bring Fedor over to their organization. And if you think UFC heavyweights would not or did not go after Fedor, I am not sure what MMA organization you are watching. Does Randy Couture ring a bell??? Perhaps a lens cleaning would help you see the clear picture. After Fedor finishes his 6 fight contract with Strikeforce, he will be a has been of MMA (a legend has been), but old news. He is no spring chicken and I do not perceive him getting better. Instead I see the “so called champ” deteriorating with each waking minute.
Also, in regards to your, “the truly brave will go to strikeforce and face the true champ”, not only do you have me rolling in my piss laughing at this comment, you also got me questioning your MMA background. Let me make a list for you of UFC fighters and you tell me some fighters from other organizations that will beat this list.
Bj Penn-
George St Pierre-
Anderson Silva-
Lyota Machida-
Brock Lesnar-
Hell I will make a list of non champs for you to give a stab at to…
Diego Sanchez-
Cain Velazquez-
Nate Marquardt-
Shane Carwin-
I can go on if you would like… But let me state my theory to you… UFC might not be the only MMA organization, but hell, tell me who has more credibility and recognition than them? Why can they sell PPV fights while no other MMA organization can? BECAUSE they deliver RESULTS!
First off the wamma title was created when fedor was in affliction if you guys weren’t up dana whites ass you’d know that. But the ufc is good at making crappy fighters good ie tito ortiz and most of the greats were bought out from the pride deal.what you bloggers do not realize is fedor is in a class of his own in mma he has been kicked the crap out of and still won fights and as far as brock goes he shouldn’t even be a heavyweight his weight is clearly a superheavyweight but creative weigh ins are part of the fight game.for every great ufc fighter you get a lot of feeders.
Twitter: extremejohn
@ozzthebarkeep, yeah because Tito Ortiz was a crappy fighter in his day. Let’s not be silly.
As for the whole WAMMA thing, I know exactly when it was created and I think it sounds just as retarded now as it sounded when I heard it the first time. Sorry I have a thing with weird names and the WAMMA title is about the gayest thing I have ever heard of. I can’t even take it seriously, Ghandi could hold that shit and I still wouldn’t take it seriously.
Twitter: MMAPunk
@ozzthebarkeep, Hey Ozz just to make sure you know, if it wasn’t for Dana White there would be no Affliction, the super gay wamma belt,Strikrforce, Fedor fighting on CBS and this whole conversation. Why don’t you stop for two seconds and listen to what is being said before you get you panties in a bunch because we don’t jump on you boyfriend band wagon. The UFC has most of the top talent in all of MMA if you think other wise you are retard and I don’t need to continue. Fedor signed with Strikeforce knowing he would be fighting inferior opponents. All we want is for him to fight an experanced fighter thats in the top 5 and is not a hasbeen or a nobody. That is not to much to ask. If he wants to be number#1 we the fans demand more from him than beating second and third fighters and claiming to be the world greatest.
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WOW alot of big name “cans” here. You really don’t have a clue, and are probably just a troll…… Win Brett Rogers TKO (Punches) Strikeforce / M-1 Global – Fedor vs. Rogers 11/7/2009 2 1:48
Win Andrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction – Day of Reckoning 1/24/2009 1 3:14
Win Tim Sylvia Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Affliction – Banned 7/19/2008 1 0:36
Win Hong Man Choi Submission (Armbar) Yarennoka – New Years Eve 2007 12/31/2007 1 1:54
Win Matt Lindland Submission (Armbar) Bodog Fight – Clash of the Nations 4/14/2007 1 2:58
Win Mark Hunt Submission (Kimura) PRIDE – Shockwave 2006 12/31/2006 1 8:16
Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 32 – The Real Deal 10/21/2006 2 1:15
Win Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission (Punches) PRIDE – Shockwave 2005 12/31/2005 1 0:26
Win Mirko Filipovic Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE – Final Conflict 2005 8/28/2005 3 5:00
Win Tsuyoshi Kosaka TKO (Doctor Stoppage) PRIDE – Bushido 6 4/3/2005 1 10:00
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE – Shockwave 2004 12/31/2004 3 5:00
NC Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest – Accidental Cut PRIDE – Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 3:52
Win Naoya Ogawa Submission (Armbar) PRIDE – Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 0:54
Win Kevin Randleman Submission (Kimura) PRIDE – Critical Countdown 2004 6/20/2004 1 1:33
Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE – Total Elimination 2004 4/25/2004 1 2:11
Win Yuji Nagata TKO (Punches) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 – Inoki Festival 12/31/2003 1 1:02
Win Gary Goodridge TKO (Soccer Kicks and Punches) PRIDE – Total Elimination 2003 8/10/2003 1 1:09
Win Kazuyuki Fujita Submission (Rear Naked Choke) PRIDE 26 – Bad to the Bone 6/8/2003 1 4:17
Win Egidijus Valavicius Submission (Kimura) Rings Lithuania – Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas 4/5/2003 2 1:13
Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 25 – Body Blow 3/16/2003 3 5:00
Win Heath Herring TKO (Cut) PRIDE 23 – Championship Chaos 2 11/24/2002 1 10:00
Win Semmy Schilt Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 21 – Demolition 6/23/2002 3 5:00
Win Chris Haseman TKO (Punches) Rings – World Title Series Grand Final 2/15/2002 1 2:50
Win Lee Hasdell Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings – World Title Series 5 12/21/2001 1 4:10
Win Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (Unanimous) Rings – World Title Series 4 10/20/2001 3 5:00
Win Renato Sobral Decision (Unanimous) Rings – 10th Anniversary 8/11/2001 2 5:00
Win Kerry Schall Submission (Armbar) Rings – World Title Series 1 4/20/2001 1 1:47
Win Mihail Apostolov Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Rings Russia – Russia vs Bulgaria 4/6/2001 1 1:03
Loss Tsuyoshi Kosaka TKO (Cut) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 1 0:17
Win Ricardo Arona Decision (Unanimous) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 3 5:00
Win Hiroya Takada KO (Punches) Rings – Battle Genesis Vol. 6 9/5/2000 1 0:12
Win Levon Lagvilava Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Rings – Russia vs Georgia 8/16/2000 1 7:24
Win Martin
Twitter: extremejohn
@DC, :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
I don’t need a history lesson on Fedor, what I need is Fedor to fight someone CURRENT and someone with more experience than my lawn guy has cutting my shrubs. Is that too much to ask? Are Fedor fans really so damn concerned about protecting his record that they no longer even have an urge to watch the guy have a fight with fighters in his league… and YES there are fighters in his league, he’s human and he showed that by the blood running from the gash in his beak.
Thank you for taking the time to comment and paste Fedor’s entire fight history, it helps prove my point that he hasn’t had a fight against a relevant opponent in years.
@Extreme John, We now hes human lol. But good luck finding someone with more experience that fedor and im serious fedor will win the next 15 fights and i put than on. you will see buddy lol. Fedor the Russian secret experiment. Fedor the last emperor. you don’t get those by beeing a wimp. Fedor is the shit get that in your head.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Seth mclean, I will get it in my head when I see him fight someone in the top 5. He’s protecting his record and Strikeforce is helping him do it, not saying I don’t understand why, just saying that I have yet to see one fight in the last 5 years with the guy that impresses me. Just one.
Twitter: extremejohn
@DC, as a matter of fact 2005 at best, and thats reaching it’s more like 2004 was his last relevant opponent.
Sounds like a mighty long time for “The Best Ever”.
Twitter: MMAPunk
@DC, DC this was Fedor last real competition Win Mirko Filipovic Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE – Final Conflict 2005 8/28/2005 3 5:00. That was 4 years ago and everyone after that is a no body or hasbeen. Brett Rogers was working in sam club last year and now his in the ring fighting the #1 ranked fighter in the world.Rogers is supposed to lose. Come on bro thats the best they can do? are you serious? Being a Fedor lover like you are shouldn’t you demand a little more from him. I mean he signed with Strikeforce knowing he would be fight inferior opponents.Any champion of any sport willl tell you they only want to compete against the best of the best not second and third rate opponents. Stop letting your unnatural love for Fedor blind you from the facts.
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@mmapunk, I feel the same way i can’t wait to see Fedor fight some real competition. But where is the competition. Tell me some names that can give Fedor a run for his money. He UFC is no competition their. So who’s next for Fedor
Man you are idiot…Fedor school this guy in every possible way.
And BTW he is the best by far, dont hate on dude if he is not from the USA.
Twitter: extremejohn
@, ummmmm yeah I am definitely the one who’s the idiot here.
@Extreme John, It’s not Fedor’s fault your not the favorite child in your family. That’s why you always want so much attention by lashing out on people who are famous and successful. Talk to your mom and pop. They know..
@Extreme John, i dont know why u said rogers dominated first round, for me it was even. Rogers connect a good jab that broke fedors nose and bleeds like crazy, yes but if u see prefight photos u can see that he have a cut previously so it seems that it was a sparring ingurie. then fedor takedown twice a 260lbs rogers and connect a left hook. In the ground i have no idea why but he try to pull out a kimuro when he was on top,rogers takes the oportunity gain top position and starts the gnp that was the worst part for fedor in the round, still was only 3 punches and he recover pretty fast.
so… i dont know why u say rogers dominated first round.
“how I feel about his hand delivered belts and constant dodging of top 10 mma fighters” who? AA, Rogers, Sylvia,Barnett (they didn’t fight but it isnt fedors fault that barnett cheat so..)? All of them were top ten when they fight. if u wanna go before them it only get worst…
On the other hand this fight states that brock will be a pin in the ass in an eventual fight with fedor, cause fedor dont have that much control in the floor like i thought he would have against rogers….so if rogers without a wrestler background give him trouble brock will give him BIG trouble. Maybe the reason why fedor attempts an armbar in top position was that he underestimate rogers in the ground.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Diego, thank you for taking the time to comment, and I appreciate you looking at it from both perspectives as opposed to repeating the same crap that everyone else has to say about Fedor.
one little Jab and u think Rogers could beat fedor lol.
Fedor Picked him a part and knocked him out. I love seeing rogers fight he has good knock outs. but Fedor even jumped up in down made if obvious he was going to knock him out. Rogers didn’t even see it coming. Rogers won’t stand a chance in the next fight. Fedor is 37 and 1 no contest. Fugita was the only guy to almost knock out fedor. Rogers didn’t even come close. the ground and pound was nothing Fedor was probally laughing
Twitter: MMAPunk
@Seth mclean, Hey Seth, Fedor beat a lesser opponent and you go all gooo goo gaa gaaa over it.I’ll say it again in case someone missed it before. One year ago Rogers worked at sams club and then he steps into the cage with the #1 ranked fight in the world and he gets beat. Please tell me you have more sence then to celabrate his victory like it was huge accomplishment. Are you kidding me? You make your self look like a jackass.Did you even read the post or did you just get pissed off because Extremejohn said something negative about your boyfriend? whoooooo Fedor beat another inferior opponent let me go talk shit to people who think he should be fighting better competition. Your are just another Fedor fluffer that doesn’t have a clue. Should I write slower so you understand
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@mmapunk, im not getting all exiciting over it Im just saying Fedor is badass so i do i need to say that any slower ass whole
lol……
ask god if he would like to fight him.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Seth mclean, I can’t even respond to this seriously.
Fedor vs Brock would be a good fight. Fedor wouldn’t be a least bit afraid. Fedor fights like a professional poker player. “Poker” is not about winning or losing it’s about making the right decisions. and that’s how Fedor treats his fights. HE doesn’t go in a fight saying he is going to knock the guy out silly. He just trains hard and trys not to make any mistakes. FIGHTER over he in U.S. are cauky and Lame.the always talk shit before a fight never back it up. Fedor is the most respectfull fighter ever. and the Greatest. FEDOR practically TRAINS on all his fights.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Seth mclean, just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
Looks like you have some pretty strong feelings about Fedor, there’s nothing wrong with that I feel the same way about Tyson. However sooner or later you will have to realize the reality that Fedor isn’t getting any younger, hasn’t fought anyone near his level in the last 5 years and will suffer a defeat and when he does (which won’t be long), it might not hurt as much
@Extreme John, I can’t wait for some to beat Fedor casuse who ever does is a badass motherfucker. there is always some bigger and badder. Lets see this crazy match up.
You all are crazy. Brett Rogers is a huge strong guy, with a good reach so he’s gunna give anybody a run for there money.Also who’s ever seen Fedor fight in a cage? i think thats the big reason Brett even got those punches in on fedor when he was on the ground. And A HUGE thing you all are forgetting are the diff rules Fedor has to follow in strikeforce no kicking or kneeing to the head of a downed fighter. No ELBOWS!! Those were some big tools for Fedor in pride. but still rogers never had fedor hurt. yea he cut him but it didnt bother fedor. Brett didnt drop him, stop him, have him a little wobbly or anything he just landed a couple punches. And not to mention fedor was the aggressor the whole fight. But what about the left fedor hit him with in the first round, that had brett covering up and backing up. Which Fedor never did in the Fight. And im sorry but if you win by ko theres no real need to look at the fight. Or any reason for a rematch until brett gets 2-3 more wins under his belt against GOOD fighters. I do see rogers running through the rest of strikeforce HW’s. But thats not saying a whole lot. Fedor’s only real good fights would be in the ufc.
FYI im not a Fedor nuthugger buts thats what i noticed watching the fight a couple times.
My question is, is whats next for fedor? Overeem? that will be a quicker fight than brett, and Overeem has no plans on coming to US to fight anytime soon (prob the roids). Maybe set up for Barnett again (I know thats far fetched). But theres no one. i dont really wanna see Werdum. This is what sucks about strikeforce. There are not any high leve fighters in there organization. Specially the HW and LHW. like who is Gergard really going to fight next? (worth fighting)
yea this wasn’t a big win for fedor. it is another tko on his record
@NW Okie, SPOT ON BRO.
fedor being owned in the first round is ridiculous..as i look at d fight, rogers connected the punch But it is not that clean however fedor got rogers on the ground 2 times..this is amazing since the weight difference is significant..fedor was hit 2x on d ground but delivered an armbar and unfortunately he was 2 close to the cage and did not manage to extend it..to say that he (fedor) was owned in that situation is false.Y? because he managed again to put rogers on the bottom and give him short punches and stayed on top until the first round ended..on the second round,clearly fedor owend rogers for the following reasons:1)fedor is aggressive the whole fight. 2)on the clinch, fedor give him multiple punches after breaking it.3) rogers only defense was to put fedor close to the fence but did not give fedor any trouble handling the clinch close to the fence.3)rogers is a knock-out artist however he was victimized by a more superior knock out artist..next time be more objective and try to analyze the fight carefully not just give ur claims unjustified.
This guy has absolutly no idea how fights get analyzed byt reff’s.
Twitter: extremejohn
@dogg, and you obviously have no idea how to write an intelligent comment. Seems like it works for me. Back to the playground junior.
Wow buddy, don’t bother commenting on MMA fights or fighters when you obviously don’t know shit all about either.
Fact: The WAMMA heavyweight title was created and given to the winner of the Tim Sylvia vs. Fedor fight on affliction – not given to Fedor for simply signing with Strikeforce.
Fact: Rogers is ranked #6 at HW and has a better career resume than one Shane Carwin whom Brock was supposed to fight next month.
Fact: Fedor’s last three fights have come against (at the time) the #5, #2 and #6 ranked HW’s, Barnett – should the fight have happened – would have been another shot against the #2.
Keep drinking the UFC Kool-Aid asshat, and please next time try and do a little research before spewing this garbage.
Also, please for fun that if Fedor isn’t ranked #1 – why don’t you tell us who is at HW?
4-1 Lesnar?
An overrated can in Mir?
Nog who Fedor already beat twice?
Shane “I have 0 top 10 wins” Carwin?
Cain (0 top 10 wins/pillowhands) Valasquez?
Your mouth is clearly attached to Dana’s scrotum.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Bungle, you know it’s always such a shame when it seems like someone might actually have a point but they can’t avoid acting like a little bitch monkey when trying to convey the message.
I appreciate you taking the time to comment, it’s too bad you still prefer to communicate like a fucking 5 year old.
Here’s the reality sunshine, do some research yourself look around and see what the overall views were of the Fedor fight than when your done with that watch Inside the MMA and the recap of the fight, and when your done you will see just how foggy your love for Fedor’s nut sack really is.
Keep hanging on, keep preying during every fight he has that this isn’t the one he gets his lights knocked out in. Keep dreaming. He’s getting older, he fought fucking washed up UFC fighters that were way over rated and one of those glass chin bitches almost KO’d Fedor’s ass if you remember correctly. Of course you won’t, because your not a realist you want to live in the pink candyland where Fedor is your hero. Love the guy, I could care less I gave the douche credit for KO’ing Rogers, but than again HE WAS SUPPOSE TO KO ROGERS.
I will answer your question in a simple way as to not get you confused, all though I have said it in the above comments at least 10 times to the rest of Fedor’s buddies, I am sure you missed it while you were doing all of your heavy duty research.
Yes, Rogers was ranked #6…. Does that make it much better than if he were #2? I wouldn’t mind seeing Fedor fight someone ranked I don’t know, Top 3 maybe? Again he’s supposidly THE #1 GUY IN THE WORLD, THE BEST MMA FIGHTER EVER, than seriously why is he fighting guys that have been in the sport for a year and that are ranked #6?
Better yet why the fuck is every Fedor fan so god damn excited about Fedor beating Rogers? Since you can’t possibly give an unbiased answer I will explain why.
Because Fedor fans know deep down inside that Fedor’s time on the undefeated ladder is limited at best, so when he pulls another one off you can’t help but be excited…… and thankful.
Oh yeah thanks again for commenting and hopefully some day you will realize, YOU have an opinion… you stated it. I have an opinion, I stated it. If you don’t like my opinion too fucking bad learn to accept it, I have to accept your shitty opinion along with your shitty delivery.
I hope when Fedor loses your just as passionate about coming back here and hand-jobbing him in the same way you did here. And sorry, WAMMA hahahahaahahaha sorry thats the funniest shit I have ever heard. Everytime I hear it I laugh my ass off.
Hilarious.
You are completely devoid of logic, facts and reason, you’re merely parroting the same crap I hear from newer fans everywhere.
Here are my problems with your argument:
1) You say Rogers was ‘owning’ Fedor – that statement is completely untrue. Fedor won the first round. Your job if you wish to reply is to explain how under the judging criteria did Rogers win it?
Rogers reopened a sparring injury to Fedor’s nose.
Rogers successfully landed 3-4 strikes while in Fedor’s guard.
That’s literally all he did.
Fedor controlled the standup and hurt Rogers with a right.
Fedor threw Rogers to the mat numerous times.
Fedor worked some G&P from the top as well.
Fedor had 3 submission attempts.
All in all, Fedor won about 4:50 of that round and was only in trouble for 5 seconds max. How is that getting owned?
2) You rip on Rogers for working at Sam’s club, are you that ignorant? All fighters need to pay their bills and unless you’re a headliner, MMA just does not pay well enough to allow most people to concentrate solely on fighting.
This is a really asinine statement on your part. Did you know Sean Sherk was working as a gas station attendant before being called back up to the UFC to fight again?
3) You state that Fedor has not been fighting top competition. That’s not a fact – that’s just, like, your opinion dude.
There is no one at HW right now who has fought better competition over his last 3 fights than Fedor, sorry but:
Rogers (6), Arlovski (2), and Sylvia (4) are better than Herring (unranked and far beyond his prime), Mir ((T)KO’d by Cruz and Vera, beat a staph infected Nog) and a 45 year old who’s claim to fame is beating another said washed up UFC fighter in Tim Sylvia. If Fedor would have fought Josh Barnett you could have added another #2 to that list.
4) You make shit up…
Rogers at #10 is something you pulled out of your ass, most publications had him at #6 (higher than Carwin).
The WAMMA belt was not simply given to Fedor, the belt was created as I said for the winner of Fedor vs. Tim Sylvia. The purpose of the belt was to create a title that could transcend organizations and be defended anywhere, whether it be Strikeforce, Affliction, Dream, Sengoku, WVR or whatever else have you. How is this a bad idea?
5) The value you put in to the UFC’s unproven commodities:
So now AA is a washed up UFC fighter? The same fighter who left the UFC while on a win-streak to go to affliction to get more money.
The same fighter who beat Ben Rothwell outside of the UFC and it wasn’t a big deal – yet when Cain beats Rothwell inside the UFC all of a sudden it’s Armageddon and Cain is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
How different is Rogers from Carwin (whom Brock was set to face)? Fedor gets dumped on for fighting someone more legit than Brock is fighting (Rogers beat #2 AA, Carwin beat unranked GG).
Again, I ask – if Fedor is not the true #1 HW, then who is?
And finally, LoL at getting after me for acting like ‘a 5 year old’ when I’m responding to a childish blog post that grammatically could have been written by an 8th grader.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Bungle, thank god we have you here to keep everything grammatically perfect.
It really hurts you that I am not impressed by Fedor one bit doesn’t it? Does it affect your life if I have yet to see Fedor do anything in the last 5 years that makes me want to worship the guy? Sorry, it’s too bad I don’t share the same opinion as you. Unless you score fights professionally my thought is that your basing your thoughts on Fedor winning the first round on something called an OPINION, you know the same way I wrote my OPINION here.
The only difference is my opinion gets you all hell bent, your opinion is your opinion and I can respect that regardless of how once sided and closed minded it might be.
Did I ever say once that Fedor WAS NOT the #1 ranked HW? Nope. I have no problem realizing the fact that the guy is ranked #1 and is undefeated, I think that’s where your confused. I’m not taking shit away from the guy, Im just saying that in the last 5 years he hasn’t done a single thing that has made me want to jump on the Fedor bandwagon. You can have that credit.
Fedor and the hype that surrounds Fedor bores me.
In regards to Rogers working at Sam’s Club you dumbass it wasn’t a dig, I worked for Sam’s Club and I worked for Home Depot for 10 years. You should really stay focused when your reading shit and feel like getting all worked up. My shitty grammar must be hard for you to follow.
If you can’t see the REPLY button how can we possibly respect that you were able to see the fight that your such an expert at scoring?
1) I can see the reply button I’ve just chosen to ignore it.
2) You’re entitled to your opinion, however you seem to be spending time spewing your opinions as if they were fact. That my friend is what I have a problem with.
3) So you were commending Rogers for his work at Sam’s Club? Didn’t come across that way to me. It sounded more like you were questioning his legitimacy as an opponent for Fedor based on the work he did to feed his family.
4) If Fedor and his hype bore you, then why blog about it at all? Better yet, why dedicate 7-8 paragraphs to how overrated the guy is and belittling all the people he’s fought?
5) With regards to your grammar, fine – nobodies perfect, but I gotta say that when the title at the top of the page is butchered, it doesn’t give the impression that you are very credible.
For someone ‘not trying to take shit from the guy’ you sure seem to be trying hard to discredit him.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Bungle,
1) Much like you choose to ignore anything that doesn’t include sheer love for Fedor.
2) I don’t give two shits what you have a problem with, nor do I think anyone else does either. Slappy has an opinion…. Big deal.
3) Sorry for your misunderstanding, better luck next time.
4) If you had a half of a brain you would be able to figure that out without even asking the question. You might want to look around, gather up some history than maybe you will figure out why I choose to write about Fedor.
In addition I am NOT belittling everyone he has fought. I just think that the Fedor ball rubbers that want to hang on to wins over a douche bag like Tim Sylvia as the most relevant shit to prove what he has done is hysterical. I also think hanging on to shit he did 5 years ago is hysterical as well. You really should probably re-read what I wrote, your misunderstanding of it is where the real barrier is here.
5) I’m not here to give impressions about anything, if you think for one second I am concerned with how you perceive me you couldn’t be more wrong. Doubt my credibility all you want, than see where this site is ranked in the world and see just how people value my knowledge on various topics. If you have some extra time and want to help out my credibility feel free to send over a grammatically correct version that makes you happy.
It’s been fun, but much like Fedor’s career it’s time to move on.
John, you seem to have a hard time with facts. 1) & 2) below set a couple things straight:
1) Fedor *won* the WAMMA title when he beat Tim Sylvia.
2) Fedor won the first round according to 2/3 judges.
Jordan Breen scores the round 10-9 Fedor
TJ De Santis scores the round 10-9 Rogers
Mike Fridley scores the round 10-9 Fedor
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Fedor-vs-Rogers-Results-and-Live-Play-by-Play-20742 (scroll all the way down)
3) I remember when Sylvia was the UFC champ and the UFC/Dana koolaid drinkers, like you, were saying Fedor was dodging UFC and specifically Tim Sylvia. Lol? You’re no different now from the UFC’ers back then.
4) Fedor was not close to being finished by the GnP. If you think so, you obviously haven’t been watching MMA very long. Maybe you’ve watched a bit too much WWE over the years? And, to boot, Rogers barely survived the resulting armbar attempt.
5) I do think Lesnar poses a real threat to Fedor. But, he’s the only UFC HW that is likely to have much of a chance. I will also admit, there are more interesting fights in the UFC for Fedor. However, I really don’t care and hope he sticks to doing what’s best for him & his partial ownership of M-1.
6) Fedor is honest, humble, respectful, and skilled in all aspects of MMA. To hate on him is simply moronic.
Cheers
Twitter: extremejohn
@superpancake, before I even respond can you take a moment to explain your fascination with Kool-aid and Dana White? Sounds loike you might have an issue there.
Now moving on to respond to you, all though most of the same shit your saying is the same shit I addressed above.
1) By far the most pathetic win to brag about on the planet, and certainly the dumbest name in sports history for any type of title or championship. WAMMA.. hahaha “Oooo oooo he beat Tim Sylvia for it”…. Big deal, who hasn’t beat Tim Sylvia.
2) Thats good for Fedor
3) In regards to Sylvia, do your homework. I never liked the guy, I always clearly stated he was an over rated joke and I still do. So when you use references to Sylvia as ways to justify Fedor it just cracks me up.
4) Yeah Rogers “barely survived it”, were you smashed when you watched the fight? More like Fedor barely came close to actually getting it on him since Rogers leg was tied up in the mix. Watch the fight again. As for the WWE line, honestly… pathetic. I don’t want to be rude or anything, but that was a pretty sad attempt at making a funny.
5) Holy crap a Fedor fan that isn’t afraid to consider…. CONSIDER another possibility. Not that it matters, because he will just be hanging around in Strikeforce waiting for the next #6-#10 fighter to fight.
6) I’m not looking to marry Fedor or get to know him better, I just want to see the guy fight the best since he is supposedly the best it’s only right.
I’ll sit here and take all of the Fedor fans abuse, I knew what I was doing when I wrote this post and it did exactly what it was suppose to do. The sad fact is that Fedor is going to get caught and when he does, there won’t be 1 single Fedor fan here to eat crap when I write about it. It’s coming, it won’t be long and I don’t mean this next silly ass fight Strikeforce is trying to setup next.
1) I’m correcting you. You said, “the WAMMA title (wtf is that) that was given to him when he signed with Strikeforce a few months ago, please note that it was actually given to him.” which is *wrong*.
2) I’m correcting you again, as 2/3 official judges disagree with you saying, “however Brett Rogers the #10 ranked heavyweight dominated the first round.”
3) I’m responding to you saying that Fedor is “protecting his record” when in fact this is not true. Maybe you weren’t saying he was afraid of Sylvia. Perhaps back then you were saying Couture, Arlovski, Kongo. I’m sure you were hating on him back then and raising a stink that he was afraid of the UFC. Btw, I agree, I’ve always said that Sylvia was a mediocre HW.
4) Yes, Rogers barely survived the armbar. Are you joking? Rogers leg was in the mix? Do you know what an armbar is? The only things that prevented the armbar from ending the fight were 1) the lack of space, the cage was in the way when Fedor tried to get the 2nd leg in place. Then, 2) Rogers pushed away the second attempt to get the 2nd leg in place.
5) Anyone who doesn’t consider Brock a unique threat to Fedor at HW is not being realistic. I’m interested in seeing Fedor fight Overeem, Barnett (If he isn’t banned from fighting in the U.S.), Werdum, and why not throw Lashley in there, he’s about as raw as most UFC ‘contenders’.
6) Ok.
People have been predicting Fedor’s downfall for years. You’re not new, you’re not original, and you’re not alone. If you actually watch his old fights, you’d know he’s been close to losing several times, and doesn’t dominate every fight. However, he *always* finds a way to win. By no means is he unbeatable. There are many HWs capable of beating him. However, in any 1-1 bet, I’d pick him every time.
GL HF stomping the Fedor huggers. Maybe I’ll be back to see your next round of bashing after the Fedor wins or loses when he fights again.
Twitter: extremejohn
@superpancake,
1) Thank you for correcting me, all though I think beating Tim Sylvia is having something given to you. Thats probably where I should have been a little more clear. Please accept my apology. My opinion, you don’t have to agree.
2) I am an opinionated asshole, much like everyone else thats commented in this post. Which ultimately means I couldn’t care less how the judges had the fight scored. I call things how I see them….. based on MY OPINION of how I saw the fight. Thank you for the clarification of the official scoring.
3) For someone that wants to state “facts” you seem to be doing a lot of assuming. Nope, never said Knogo, never said Sylvia all though I did say that I would have liked to see Fedor fight Couture. However in typical M-1/Fedor fashion regardless of how many MMA FANS want to see the fight, Fedor managed to avoid it. The UFC was ready to let it happen , Randy was more than ready… Where’s Fedor? Just saying.
If you truly believe in your heart that Fedor and M-1 aren’t trying to keep things nice and clean on his record, than there’s no sense on even continuing this discussion. Even Boxing manages to get the biggest names to fight each other, money related or not it puts on the fights that the fans want to see at the same time it delivers a huge payday for the fighters. Everyone wins.
You, Fedor himself and everyone else that hearts his ass so much can say whatever you want, my argument in the end will always be that I am a long time fan of MMA, I want and DESERVE to see the best fights between THE BEST ranked fighters. Period.
4) Your boring me here, bottom line is Rogers didn’t barely escape anything. Read what you wrote and you will realize exactly why Rogers didn’t “barely” escape.
5) Please stop with this, it’s ridiculous. Overeem, Barnett (If he isn’t banned from fighting in the U.S.), Werdum, and why not throw Lashley?
Who the hell wants to see Fedor fight Overeem? Really? I mean reeaaalllyyy? Is that what Fedor fans want to see? Because I will tell you, not being a Fedor fan I have zero interest in watching that fight. You can add Werdum to the list of fighters that Fedor will fight and beat and I will continue to say it’s a joke, and the fact that you threw Lashley in the mix is beyond hysterical.
Your response to this shows exactly why Fedor fans are Fedor fans and why people that aren’t Fedor will most likely never be Fedor fans.
6) I guess it’s safe to assume that you don’t want to.
In closing and moving past this conversation, it’s too bad that you really never got the point of this post. If you think I write this crap because I want to stop Fedor lovers, your wrong. Like whoever the hell you want to like, better yet start a blog or a fan club for all I care, it’s your opinion and you can like whoever the hell you want.
I am saying that from my point of view Fedor has done nothing in the last 5 years to impress me, thats my opinion. Period. Has nothing to do with you, or any of the other Fedor fans in this post. If you wanna like the guy, like the guy I certainly wouldn’t sit here and try to justify reasons behind why you should NOT like him.
As for me not being new, I never said I was new nor did I say this post was a new view or anything of that nature. It’s MY OPINION, just accept it as that.
As for coming back in the future I hope you do, I enjoy playing devils advocate and the back and forth is great for the site
” Owns Fedor Than Loses” is common among Fedor’s past fights.
Just curious,when did you first know about Fedor?
And have you watched all of his fights?
Twitter: extremejohn
@MMABlogger@MMABlogger, finally someone that is going to attack me from a better angle. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
I have not seen all of Fedor’s fights, got me there. I also have not been watching Fedor from way back in the day. I heard about Fedor about 6 years ago. I have seen all of his fights in the last 5 years, which is exactly why I stick to the previous 5 years and what my opinion is based on.
Fedor owned Rogers the from the start. All rogers did was getting thrown around like a ragdoll. Then he landed a shitty punch that opened up a cut that already was there. A gnp that lasted 5 seconds + a jab doesnt count as owning the first round.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Chris, was the broken nose already there too or did that shitty punch he threw after getting thrown around like a rag doll have something to do with it?
I love how everyone references “the cut that was from a previous injury”…. How about the broken nose? Was it broken before he walked in the ring? Yeah, I’m sure it was.
Extreme John…or whatever the fuck you call yourself these days, your mom has a message for you….
“Get off the damn computer and take out the thrash!!!!”
Altough you are a stupid fucking troll with the IQ of 60, i have to give you a little credit, because i really think you actually somehow managed to get Dana White to give you 20 bucks for writing this…
I know it must suck seeing Fedor destroy anyone they put in front of him..and i know it must suck knowing that lots of those guys were the UFC champs not that long ago….. and it also must suck that deep inside you know, that Bret Rogers would probably wipe his ass with the WWE one trick pony Brock Lesnar (best guy the UFC has according to assclown Dana White) and most other UFC heavyweights…
I know your life sucks right now, but maybe one day when Fedor gets really old he might loose a fight so keep up the hope!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Twitter: extremejohn
@angry trucker, hey Dumb Fucker… sorry Angry Trucker, thats cute maybe one day we can address all your gay deeds.
I do have to say congratulations though, unlike everyone else that commented in this post it only took you less than once sentence to show everyone how fucking retarded you really are.
My life has never been better you dumb ass, and since you are confused about the definition of a troll I suggest you take a moment to look it up. Your a web troll, you surf the web mouthing off like the keyboard warrior meat beatin douche that you are.
Hopefully one day you will grow up, remove that giant dildo that is obviously jammed in your ass and realize that not everyone on the planet is going to agree with you. It’s o.k though, the web is full of ass clowns like you and luckily for you there’s adults like us to help guide you through the world.
When you learn how to express yourself without the pacifier in your mouth let us know.
Man, you’re the Fedor of Fedor haters!
Twitter: extremejohn
@JP, not at all. Just want to see the guy fight opponents better than what Strikeforce has to offer.
Extreme John…sorry my post has upset you so much, it looks like i hit a nerve.
I have effortlesly exposed you for the loser that you truly are… of course you have immediatelly recogniozed that….as you fall short trying to convince people that Fedor (a fighter who destroys everyone they put infront of him) is really no good…..and now you are lashing out…..
I understand that you are very upset.
Since you are not mentally equipped to go to war of wits, as any imbecile of your ilk….you have decided to use the old tested and true homosexual inuendo…partly because you are confused about your own sexuality (perhaps that pacifier you so fondly speak of, is jammed tightly inside your ass, just warming up so you can suck on it as you write another witty reply) and partly bacause you are about as witty as a doorknob…
I suggest that you turn off the figure skating and try watching more than one or two MMA events before forming any opinions about any fighters…
Yours truly
Angry Trucker (the dumb fucker was really cute, considering its the best you can come up with…its about as witty as the rest of you…)
Looking forward to more primitive insults…perhaps you can use the “my dad can beat up your dad” line….hahahaha
Looking forward to hearing from you soon
Twitter: extremejohn
@angry trucker, I can’t remember a time when someone that left a comment here made me laugh so fucking hard.
The best thing about you hanging on every word is that at the end of the day you think you matter, here or anywhere else.
Let’s have a therapy session, when was the last time you feel that you mattered?
When was the last time you felt like people actually cared about you or what you thought?
When was the last time someone took you serious?
The sad reality is that you couldn’t strike a nerve with me if you were holding an axe and I were tied to a wall, you have to matter to strike a nerve with me sugar shorts. You don’t matter, and frankly you never will.
Hahaha…i knew that your next post will be even lamer than the last…you are obviously very upset (so much for the theory that my opinion dosen’t matter)….hahaha…
Just when i tought, you can’t get any more delusional, you have beaten my expectation….
You have devoted about 6 paragraphs to why i don’t matter, just like you have devoted a whole page to why Fedor sucks…
Now i want you to pause and try to think about what you wrote for a little….
I’m actually enjoying this little “exchange”…to me its just as funny as pretending to throw a frisby and my dog takes off, thinking i have thrown it…i’m not saying that you are dumber than my dog, that would be very mean-spirited on my behalf…
I’m actually thinking that in some ways you might be a little smarter than my dog, altough you haven’t convinced me completely….
But you sure are very good at diging yourelf deeper and deeper with every post…
Keep it coming
Twitter: extremejohn
@angry trucker, glad to see your math sucks too.
Four sentences you dumb fuck.
I’m curious if you even realize just how stupid you really look, digging and scraping and trying as hard as you can to keep my attention. Your boring, you have nothing to offer and if you had any brains you dumb fuck you would realize how much your being owned every time you comment here.
Think about it lady boy, your running to a blog to have an “exchange” over an MMA topic, every single one of your useless words benefits me you moron. Roping you into a Fedor conversation benefits me.
My guess is you were born a loser and there’s no chance that’s changing anytime soon. With that being said, roping you along and toying with you has been fun. Much like society has cut the cord with you it’s also time for this little fantasy relationship you dreamed up to come to an end. You have managed to bore me into moving on to look for the next dumb fuck to rope around for a few hours, thanks for the fun play it was fun letting you embarrass yourself.
You know you can’t possibly let me have the last word. Best part is it’s going to kill you not to check daily to see if I responded to you. See you daily troll. :laughat:
1) haha…you are so funny, im sensing that youre foaming at the mouth as you type your winded response , being that i turned the tables on your bullshit…i love it….also you might want to count your sentences again…hahaha
2) If you knew how to read or spell a sentence you would notice that i was never referring to MMA when putting the word “exchange” in quotation marks like i just did now….
Exchange would imply that the other party (you) actually knows something about MMA, which you have already proven that you dont….but you seem to know lots about dildos, which you have brought up in one of your previous posts….
When i used an analogy between you and my dog…it is clear to me now that you have a very slight edge over my dog, because and even as retarded as you are, you just realized, that you have been owned….(my dog usually takes a bit longer)
I understand that now that you have realized, you can’t win this….you decided to spew more f-words and other primitive insults (as anyone of you limited intelligence would) and try to move on….
Common give me one more, i almost died laughing from the last one!!
It would appear that you have learned your lesson….until next time sweet cheeks….
These is the last time i visit your site. This site is attracts idiots. I’m I right. I will visit the next time Fedor wins.
Twitter: extremejohn
@Seth mclean, I don’t blame you I wouldn’t waste my time with it.
One of your best attributes in my opinion is your ability to analyze the situation. This Fedor crap is killing me. You really think Rogers owned him? Or do you just hate the guy? If that were you in that ring in that fight the word owned would have never been in the conversation. Stop being so biased, it doesn’t look good on you bro:)
i’m a little late on this one but i’ve just recently educated myself about Fedor.
after reading all those posts I come to agree that fedor is a truly incredible fighter and could easily be in HW UFC top 3. I also agree that he should only fight the best fighters of the world.
As of now, he is putting his legendary status in jeopardy, he is awesome but if he keeps avoiding UFC I will never be able to consider him the best fighter ever. it would be already way late for him to get in UFC, he’s getting old and could jsut get owned right away against a huge lump like Lesnar. Even though i think his respect, attitude, technique and strenght classify him as a legendary fighter, I’d rather see him get a good attempt at an unfair lump like brock than just stay away from UFC.
on a completely different topic too, after all the lousy stupid comments i read here (mixed in all the smart ones) i have to say that, Angry trucker, you’re a pretty impressive idiot, you never brought up a serious argument about the topic and even if EJ tried hard to educate you about how stupid you sound, you never realized anything.
look at this definition and see for yourself if it fits you.
Troll (internet): In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
that’s all.
GSP and Fedor FTW!
Nice try EJ….you got spanked and now you think changing your name is the way to go….with a loser like yourself, an intelligent argument is not possible, so i just have my fun with you in other ways…
If youre honestly think that Fedor needs to fight a 4-1 record “champion” to prove himself youre not only a true moron but also delusional….
Twitter: extremejohn
@angry trucker, oh look, slappy the local circus monkey is back around for some holiday cheer.
Here’s the deal little lady, I don’t like Fedor, he doesn’t impress me and in some amazing fashion you manage to impress me even less. Your boring, which is exactly why you come here hoping someone will kick you around a little bit.
In this same crazy world that allows you to have an opinion, I am also allowed to have one. One of the biggest differences between you and I is the fact that I have the balls to put myself out there in regards to my opinions on things, meanwhile you hide behind a silly ass name and jump into posts that are 3 months old hoping that someone will pay attention to you.
Fedor doesn’t have to prove shit to me, in the same fashion Strikeforce watched Cung get knocked out, they will also have to stand by and watch Fedor fall from grace, well that is if they can find anyone in that organization for him to fight that might actually matter.
Merry Christmas and as always thanks for coming through with your amazing wisdom.
Hey Extreme Jackass….you got the wording right, unfortunatelly you got it backwards…it is you ,who’s hiding behind a different name and jumped into a 3 month old thread (see post above)…..
Nothing screams “i have been spanked” more than pretending to be someone else coming to your aid and casually offerring your “unbiased opinion”….my advice…next time try to at least change your writing style, so it isn’t as obvious….
You simply couldn’t handle the fact that i had the last word….it haunted you for 3 months and this is the best you can come-up with?
But i do have to agree, that you have some balls….coming on the internet and thrash-talking the best heavyweight fighter from the safety of your mother’s basement isn’t for faint at heart….
Of course my “silly ass name” can’t possibly be as real as “Extreme John”, which of course totally reveals your real identity…..
dude i dont know extreme john or anyone else here, and rarely post anywhere. But he has a pretty good opinion that makes some sense (even though is disagree on some stuff) compared to your 12 years old shit talk, it’s quite obvious he isnt me if you take time reading our posts, english isnt my first language anyways.
you :high: a bit too much man, go buy yourself a women and become a joyful trucker.
anyways i hope to see Fedor vs the giant Lesnar in a near future. even though Fedor would probably hit the mat.
GSP is the man anyways!!
Sure you dont haha….the problem with your defense is, that it would be very hard to find someone who is equally as retarded as you are (EJ)….by the way English is not my first language as well….
This is from your…ehm sorry EJ’s trolling blog on top of this page:
[QUOTE]Here’s where things get sticky and it’s mostly my own fault because I love to talk shit about Fedor and how I feel about his hand delivered belts and constant dodging of top 10 mma fighters, the bottom line is that the best fighters in MMA are in the UFC.[/QUOTE]
Yes it is your own fault…”talking shit” is a very good indication of your maturity….so when your other split personality (lets just call it Marsupial) hopes to insult me by using terms like “12 year old shit talk”, maybe you should go back to your own blog and first make sure you don’t freely admit to being a shittalker…haha
Second….
Once again….Lets examine again Brock Lesnars accomplishements…(i hate pointing out the obvious, but i dont think you posess the mental capacity to piece this together yourself)
Beock is tied 1-1 with a guy who wasn’t even supposed to be walking again after his motorcycle accident( Frank Mir)….
He has managed to pin down Heath Herring….a guy, who used to be somewhat good, but now he is a gatekeeper material at best.
He did beat an “over the hill”"and much smaller 47 year old fighter (Randy)
Fedor has nothing to prove to this 4-1 fighter, who was very much “parachuted” into the position of a HW champion by the UFC management, since his fake wrestling credentials would no doubt increase the ratings by attracting the trailer thrash crowd….
Also i don’t think we will see Brock fighting anymore, due to his health problems, induced by exessive steroid use..
I do agree with you on one point….GSP is the man…he is one of the most talented fighters in the UFC right now.
Hey, pretty reasonable article. Thanks for writing it. I am a huge fan of Fedor; visit my website, I write about Fedor in great detail (it’s all theory.)
This fight, however, disappointed me. Fedor phoned this one in. He looked sloppy and very human in the cage. The punishment he took on the ground from Rogers were strikes he’s never received before, by virtue of not having fought in a cage before. It doesn’t matter how many people you’ve beaten, you simply can’t take that kind of punishment and last very long.
Fedor claims that, despite taking significant damage from Rogers’ punches, he was never hurt and felt the fight was fairly even; in hindsight, he was probably a lot more calm and in control than people give him credit for. However, that calm may not functionally be much different than complacence. There’s no room for complacence in the UFC, where heavyweights move like lightweights and can fight for five rounds. In the UFC – where the top talent is consolidated – Fedor would face heavyweights as large as Rogers and as strong but more well-rounded and well-conditioned.
Brock Lesnar, for all the criticism he’s received for not being well-rounded, knows his simple game to perfection. The larger, stronger and faster Lesnar can easily take Fedor to the ground where he’ll control him, hold him against the cage, and feed him punches until the referee stops the fight. It could be over very quickly, and if Fedor’s phoned-in performance against Rogers and Arlovski were any indication, it will be.
For my sake as a fan, I hope I’m wrong about that.
For what it’s worth, Dan Gable – the legendary coach of the legendary Iowa Hawkeye wrestlers – spoke of a “reckless abandon” which he demanded of his athletes. That fearless, to-hell-with-risk work ethic in competition may be the most important component of the Hawkeyes’ wrestling success, and perhaps Fedor’s success as well.
.-= Luke´s last blog ..The Secret to Fedor’s Success: He Wins =-.
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